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kindkit ([personal profile] kindkit) wrote2017-11-14 03:36 pm

god DAMN it

I had a terrible day at work, and then I got home to discover that the new word-of-god on Marcus Keane is that he's not gay, he's bisexual. From this interview with showrunner Jeremy Slater.

If they had shown Marcus as bisexual since the beginning, instead of clearly presenting him as gay and then changing their minds, I'd be fine with it. Hell, I'd have been thrilled! But I am deeply suspicious of why they're saying bisexual now; if they aren't making way for a romance, either past or future or both, with Mouse I'll eat my hat. And that just infuriates me, especially in the context of Marcus's having apparently, in 2x05, drawn back from starting a relationship with Peter.

I was so fucking happy to have a gay lead character that I love in a show that I love. And now that's been taken away, probably in the service of putting in a het romance.

It also fucks up the whole way I understood Marcus, which considering I was thinking of writing fic is a big deal.

I remember now why I so rarely get into open-canon shows: because they can break your damn heart.


ETA: Now that I'm calmer I want to clarify what I meant. Wanting to introduce a bisexual character on the show is, in itself, great. The showrunners could've taken a character previously assumed to be straight and revealed them to be bi. Or they could've made Peter bi, since there's nothing to indicate that Peter is necessarily gay and not bi. But no, the showrunners picked my gay action hero a lead character who has been strongly suggested to be gay ("I didn't think girls were your flavor" says the demon, and it doesn't make sense as a taunt unless Marcus is indeed not attracted to women/girls). So, yeah, we get a bi character added, but at the cost of subtracting a gay one. The total number of queer characters on the show has not gone up, even though there are plenty of presumed-straight characters to choose from. And I do genuinely fear that this is in preparation for introducing a het romance for Marcus, because if they didn't want to show him in a relationship with a woman, why not just let him be gay? There is no shortage of het romance in the media, and I really really really really ohmygodreally don't want to see another one when the prerequisite for it is "Oops, Marcus isn't gay after all!" Honestly I'm dubious about any romance on the show (unless it's Marcus/Tomas, which we aren't going to get), and the idea of a het one gets right up my nose. The most cynical part of me feels like this is a way for the show to get inclusivity points without the ratings risk of showing an ongoing romance between two men. ("But Marcus is bi!" cry the showrunners. "He kissed a man that one time, remember? How much more do you people want?")

It makes me angry that this decision pits queer fans (and fans of queer characters) against each other. Because obviously it's good to have more bisexual characters in the media! But the price we're being asked to pay for that--one less gay character, when gay characters are underrepresented already--is not good. The obvious solution is fewer straight characters. But heaven forbid straight people not see themselves vastly over-represented in the media. That might make them uncomfortable.


At least the Australian postal vote on same-sex marriage is turning out strongly in favor, so the day isn't totally awful.
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[personal profile] halotolerant 2017-11-19 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't quite join the discussion on this because I am, as ever, behind on the episodes (saw episode 6 today and no more available for me yet), although I've seen some similar reaction on tumblr. I guess I'm just hoping against hope that the show is better than we expect (quite rightly, given all experience of media ever) of it and this goes somewhere we want to be. But I agree, bisexual representation at the expense of homosexual representation doesn't really make a win for anyone.
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[personal profile] halotolerant 2017-11-26 11:41 am (UTC)(link)
Plus I think that argument conflates the way someone should react to an actual person coming out as bi--where doubting their word is not okay--with how we are allowed to react to representation, where there is no real person, only a character who is the product of writing choices.
This is such an important point, and very true.

I think one has to take to the view that there will always be someone on tumblr ready to say Your Feelings Are Morally Wrong *sighs* Anyone with an ounce of realism will say that - as I have felt several times about female bisexual characters - in MEDIA (again not in real life), bisexuality is a way to have 'kisses that do not make our viewers uncomfortable' occur in some higher ratio to 'same sex kisses'. Bisexual in media seems to usually mean 'one night stand with same sex, relationship with opposite sex'. If it more frequently meant the reverse in media I'd mind less about it because I would be more prepared to say 'ah, your noble representation of this orientation' and less 'this is just a way to have cake and eat it'