kindkit: A late-Victorian futuristic zeppelin. (Airship)
[personal profile] kindkit
I've just stayed up late watching the first four episodes of Colditz, a 1970s British WWII drama about POWs in a supposedly escape-proof German camp.

I wish they still made TV shows like this--shows that actually take their time telling a story, that gradually establish characterization and relationships, that use subtlety and implication instead of info-dumps and obvious "this is the Message" speeches, that have dialogue written for intelligent adults instead of hyperactive 14-year-olds. I'd trade all the CGI in the world for better-crafted storytelling. It makes me sad to think of all the kinds of stories that we'll never see on TV again because they're just not fast enough or simple enough for the 21st century. And I don't just mean complex historical dramas; I mean things like the best episodes of Blake's 7 or classic Doctor Who. Imagine, for example, subsidiary characters having dialogue that just developed their characters and didn't advance the main plot. That used to happen! You never see it even on good TV anymore, because Plot is God and writers stuff as much plot into 45-60 minutes as they possibly can.

I'm tired of streamlining and breakneck pacing and so-called intensity. I want digressions, pauses, subplots and b-arcs, moments that are allowed to exist for their own sake (which is to say for the characters' sake, or the worldbuilding's sake). I want nonessential details, nonfunctional creativity, the things that makes a story feel alive instead of built, organic instead of mechanical. I want . . . copiousness, I guess you could call it.

This is part of the reason I love fanfic, I suppose. But you used to get more of it in the source text, too.

Date: 2011-06-11 08:11 am (UTC)
lilacsigil: Daredevil: masked Man (Masked Man)
From: [personal profile] lilacsigil
It's strange, because just as TV went for Plot Is God, comics went for "decompressed storytelling". (My icon is from Bendis and Maleev's run on Daredevil, which was pretty much the epitome of this). Reading comics from the early 90s, for example, there's plots crammed into one issue that would take three issues now; comics from the mid-80s and earlier are even more crowded. People talk about this as writer laziness, being too slow and putting too much emphasis on character rather than plot. But I (usually) like it very much.

Date: 2011-06-11 12:37 pm (UTC)
alixtii: Player from <i>Where on Earth Is Carmen Sandiego?</i> playing the game. (Default)
From: [personal profile] alixtii
Myself? I want denouements, stories which, once the major crisis has passed, are allowed to linger on for a bit before ending.

But yes, I want all the things you mentioned too!

Date: 2011-06-11 01:33 pm (UTC)
oursin: Brush the Wandering Hedgehog by the fire (Default)
From: [personal profile] oursin
Yeah - compare/contrast the leisurely 13 hour-long episodes 1974 version of South Riding with the breakneck recent 3 episode 'mini-series' which cut out pretty much everything that wasn't Sara/Carne Rooooomance. Ugh. And similar thoughts occurred to me when watching Manhunt (1971), about three individuals forced to work together to try and escape France during the Occupation, and the depth of characters who maybe appeared for a single episode, and the moral complexity and ambiguity all round.

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