miles from nowhere
Jan. 9th, 2024 09:28 pmSo, HBO Max has cancelled Our Flag Means Death after 2 seasons.
I wasn't surprised by this; I started expecting it when I learned about the budget cuts to S2, and I knew a few weeks ago when showrunner David Jenkins retweeted something highly critical of (HBO Max head) David Zaslav, he of the show-cancelling and finished-movie-shelving habits.
Apparently a large portion of Twitter was surprised, though. I'm seeing a lot of lamenting along the lines of "we'll never see Ed and Stede's wedding," which frankly I never particularly wanted to see. (I have an unfinished story draft that was going to be specifically about Ed and Stede not getting married--and not getting matelotage'd either--because Stede has nothing but bad associations with marriage and he wants his relationship with Ed to be different.) I wonder if many of these folks have never participated in fandom before, because filling in those gaps is something fanfic does well. Often better, or at least more satisfyingly, than canon.
"But the story's not finished!": the story is finished. There's a lot I don't like about S2 (more than my initial reaction posts conveyed), but it seems clear to me that David Jenkins as showrunner did everything in his power to wrap up the story in the eight episodes he was allowed. The predictable result was rushed, poorly-paced storytelling, and handwaving of a lot of character development *coughIzzycough*, but he did try. We have Ed and Stede together, building a future that is what Ed, at least, wants (and Stede has been able, though briefly, to live his dream too). We have the show's second most beloved couple getting married. We have various other characters either moving on to new lives, or becoming better at being pirates.
It's an ending. It's not a Harry Potter-style episode that takes the characters through the next 20+ years, but we all know the HP epilogue sucked as storytelling, right? And anyway, I think Jenkins, while trying to end the story, was also trying to leave open some ways for it to continue.
"But Izzy!?": I'm in the small minority of Izzy fans* who didn't particularly mind that he died. What bothers me is that Izzy's arc was far too rushed, so absolutely enormous changes to his behavior were just dropped in without explanation. (How did Izzy start caring about the crew? How did Izzy start caring about the crew enough to override his devotion to Ed? How did Izzy come to accept both his own queerness and his love for Ed? How did he get from loathing fancy boys to doing drag?) All of Izzy's growth was exactly what I would have wanted for him, but it should have happened over the course of at least 2 more seasons.
I've definitely seen some folks on Twitter saying "Good, fuck this show, I'm glad it was cancelled because Izzy," and I can understand it but I don't agree, or at least not for the same reasons.
(*I'm an Izzy fan in the sense that I found him perhaps the most fascinating character, or at least tied with Ed for that spot. I'm not the kind of Izzy fan who believes--as a surprising number do--that he was right about everything and not in any way a homophobic bullying little shit.)
My own hot take is this: given the budgetary, and probably also content, constraints an S3 made by Max would have been under, I'm not sorry that we won't have one. S1 was brilliant, S2 was a mess, S3 would probably have been worse. We'd lost Izzy (and while his death didn't bother me that way it bothered some other folks--e.g. I don't think it was a "kill your gays" thing because there were a fuck of a lot of gays still alive and happy--I do think a show without Izzy wouldn't have been the same) and Buttons and the Swede, and introduced some new characters who felt even less developed than those latter two. The show could certainly have gone on without Buttons and the Swede, but without Izzy, something important would have been missing. I also wonder how much time Taika Waititi would have been able to devote to his role, considering everything else he's got going on. (NB some fools on Twitter are blaming Taika for the show's cancellation; David Jenkins came back to Twitter just long enough to say that that's not true.)
All this is, I guess, unfairly easy for me to say, because I fell out of love with the show after S2. I didn't start hating it; I just started not caring very much. I couldn't bring myself to rewatch S2, though I rewatched S1 multiple times with enthusiasm; the fic I was working on, that needed an S2 rewatch to finish, languishes on my hard drive.
None of which stopped me from cancelling my Max subscription today, and giving OFMD's cancellation at the reason. And I probably will rewatch the whole thing on Max one last time before my existing subscription runs out, just to make a point. But what I'm angry at is how a good show got screwed over, in part because of mergers and corporate bullshit, and in part because David Zaslav both hates art and is a MAGA dickhead who presumably hates queer and BIPOC people. I'm angry about the show that might have been, not that the show as it actually exists is over.
Anyway, we'll always have fanfic.
I wasn't surprised by this; I started expecting it when I learned about the budget cuts to S2, and I knew a few weeks ago when showrunner David Jenkins retweeted something highly critical of (HBO Max head) David Zaslav, he of the show-cancelling and finished-movie-shelving habits.
Apparently a large portion of Twitter was surprised, though. I'm seeing a lot of lamenting along the lines of "we'll never see Ed and Stede's wedding," which frankly I never particularly wanted to see. (I have an unfinished story draft that was going to be specifically about Ed and Stede not getting married--and not getting matelotage'd either--because Stede has nothing but bad associations with marriage and he wants his relationship with Ed to be different.) I wonder if many of these folks have never participated in fandom before, because filling in those gaps is something fanfic does well. Often better, or at least more satisfyingly, than canon.
Under the spoiler cut here are more thoughts, generally inspired by the fandom reactions I've seen. Includes major spoilers for both seasons.
"But the story's not finished!": the story is finished. There's a lot I don't like about S2 (more than my initial reaction posts conveyed), but it seems clear to me that David Jenkins as showrunner did everything in his power to wrap up the story in the eight episodes he was allowed. The predictable result was rushed, poorly-paced storytelling, and handwaving of a lot of character development *coughIzzycough*, but he did try. We have Ed and Stede together, building a future that is what Ed, at least, wants (and Stede has been able, though briefly, to live his dream too). We have the show's second most beloved couple getting married. We have various other characters either moving on to new lives, or becoming better at being pirates.
It's an ending. It's not a Harry Potter-style episode that takes the characters through the next 20+ years, but we all know the HP epilogue sucked as storytelling, right? And anyway, I think Jenkins, while trying to end the story, was also trying to leave open some ways for it to continue.
"But Izzy!?": I'm in the small minority of Izzy fans* who didn't particularly mind that he died. What bothers me is that Izzy's arc was far too rushed, so absolutely enormous changes to his behavior were just dropped in without explanation. (How did Izzy start caring about the crew? How did Izzy start caring about the crew enough to override his devotion to Ed? How did Izzy come to accept both his own queerness and his love for Ed? How did he get from loathing fancy boys to doing drag?) All of Izzy's growth was exactly what I would have wanted for him, but it should have happened over the course of at least 2 more seasons.
I've definitely seen some folks on Twitter saying "Good, fuck this show, I'm glad it was cancelled because Izzy," and I can understand it but I don't agree, or at least not for the same reasons.
(*I'm an Izzy fan in the sense that I found him perhaps the most fascinating character, or at least tied with Ed for that spot. I'm not the kind of Izzy fan who believes--as a surprising number do--that he was right about everything and not in any way a homophobic bullying little shit.)
My own hot take is this: given the budgetary, and probably also content, constraints an S3 made by Max would have been under, I'm not sorry that we won't have one. S1 was brilliant, S2 was a mess, S3 would probably have been worse. We'd lost Izzy (and while his death didn't bother me that way it bothered some other folks--e.g. I don't think it was a "kill your gays" thing because there were a fuck of a lot of gays still alive and happy--I do think a show without Izzy wouldn't have been the same) and Buttons and the Swede, and introduced some new characters who felt even less developed than those latter two. The show could certainly have gone on without Buttons and the Swede, but without Izzy, something important would have been missing. I also wonder how much time Taika Waititi would have been able to devote to his role, considering everything else he's got going on. (NB some fools on Twitter are blaming Taika for the show's cancellation; David Jenkins came back to Twitter just long enough to say that that's not true.)
All this is, I guess, unfairly easy for me to say, because I fell out of love with the show after S2. I didn't start hating it; I just started not caring very much. I couldn't bring myself to rewatch S2, though I rewatched S1 multiple times with enthusiasm; the fic I was working on, that needed an S2 rewatch to finish, languishes on my hard drive.
None of which stopped me from cancelling my Max subscription today, and giving OFMD's cancellation at the reason. And I probably will rewatch the whole thing on Max one last time before my existing subscription runs out, just to make a point. But what I'm angry at is how a good show got screwed over, in part because of mergers and corporate bullshit, and in part because David Zaslav both hates art and is a MAGA dickhead who presumably hates queer and BIPOC people. I'm angry about the show that might have been, not that the show as it actually exists is over.
Anyway, we'll always have fanfic.