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kindkitThe state of the world continues to be awful. I don't have anything useful to say about it.
So, more of the shipping meme; my first post with the full list of questions is here.
Some shippy fannish stuff follows.
15. Favourite poly ship
Jean/Scott/Logan, X-Men movieverse. I'm not much of a poly shipper, but this is a case where I genuinely believe it would solve a lot of problems for them.
16. Characters that you kinda ship but prefer asbrotp friends
Not brotp. Please, no.
Anyway. Daisy & Basira from The Magnus Archives. Jonny hasn't unambiguously said whether he considers them to be romantically involved or not, but he's hinted pretty strongly that with them, he was interested in exploring kinds of loyalty other than the romantic. Which wouldn't stop me, and I actually think their relationship in canon leans more romantic than Jonny acknowledges. But I also think that the emotional territory he's trying to explore with them is really, really interesting, and I agree with Jonny that if they're romantically involved, it makes everything more straightforward, less complex and fraught. For me, they're romantic-tinged friends, but more than that, they're partners. For better or worse.
17. Characters that you ship and can’t imagine to be friends
Jon/Martin, The Magnus Archives. I don't mean that they're not friends--I think one of the things S5 did really effectively was show them becoming friends after falling in love. But they needed to be in love first. They're too different, and different in incompatible rather than mutually-strengthening or even mutually-interesting ways, to have ever been non-romantic friends. Plus, Martin seems to have fallen in love with Jon almost immediately, so there was no room for a friendship to grow. Plus plus, Jon was Martin's boss. It ceased to matter after a while, but if the world had stayed normal enough for them to become friends, it would have stayed normal enough for that to matter.
18. Guilty pleasure ship
I'm having trouble thinking of one for fandoms I'm still interested in. So I'll go back in fannish time a bit and say Marcus/Tomas, from The Exorcist TV show. Everyone involved with the show denied it, and Ben Daniels in particular kept jumping on it from a great height, but oh did I ever ship it. All those onscreen caresses did not look brotherly to me.
19. Ship that you never expected to ship.
Azu/Cel from Rusty Quill Gaming. There was a startling amount of UST, or at least URT (Unresolved Romantic Tension) between them on the airship, and their personalities also mesh really well in unexpected ways. They're both canonically involved with other people now, but I still kind of ship them.
20. Ship that you liked but don’t anymore
I seem to recall that I shipped Hamid/Bertie (RQG) for about ten seconds before it became clear what kind of person Bertie was. But that's too easy; I was never all that into it.
This is not so much a ship as a whole fandom: Top Gear. I loved the silly fun parts of the show for a while, and I've always been intensely interested in the male homosocial continuum, and also the complexities of how stage personas intersect with people's ostensibly real, true, private selves. So I wrote a few fics, although I'm pleased to be able to say that I only shipped James May/Richard Hammond (or May with a couple of other men); Jeremy Clarkson was always kind of a dickhead in my stories.
Then the show did a racism I couldn't ignore or explain away to myself, and they were all involved in it. I wrote an angry fic, and the fandom got angry at me in return, and I left without any real regret.
So, more of the shipping meme; my first post with the full list of questions is here.
Some shippy fannish stuff follows.
15. Favourite poly ship
Jean/Scott/Logan, X-Men movieverse. I'm not much of a poly shipper, but this is a case where I genuinely believe it would solve a lot of problems for them.
16. Characters that you kinda ship but prefer as
Not brotp. Please, no.
Anyway. Daisy & Basira from The Magnus Archives. Jonny hasn't unambiguously said whether he considers them to be romantically involved or not, but he's hinted pretty strongly that with them, he was interested in exploring kinds of loyalty other than the romantic. Which wouldn't stop me, and I actually think their relationship in canon leans more romantic than Jonny acknowledges. But I also think that the emotional territory he's trying to explore with them is really, really interesting, and I agree with Jonny that if they're romantically involved, it makes everything more straightforward, less complex and fraught. For me, they're romantic-tinged friends, but more than that, they're partners. For better or worse.
17. Characters that you ship and can’t imagine to be friends
Jon/Martin, The Magnus Archives. I don't mean that they're not friends--I think one of the things S5 did really effectively was show them becoming friends after falling in love. But they needed to be in love first. They're too different, and different in incompatible rather than mutually-strengthening or even mutually-interesting ways, to have ever been non-romantic friends. Plus, Martin seems to have fallen in love with Jon almost immediately, so there was no room for a friendship to grow. Plus plus, Jon was Martin's boss. It ceased to matter after a while, but if the world had stayed normal enough for them to become friends, it would have stayed normal enough for that to matter.
18. Guilty pleasure ship
I'm having trouble thinking of one for fandoms I'm still interested in. So I'll go back in fannish time a bit and say Marcus/Tomas, from The Exorcist TV show. Everyone involved with the show denied it, and Ben Daniels in particular kept jumping on it from a great height, but oh did I ever ship it. All those onscreen caresses did not look brotherly to me.
19. Ship that you never expected to ship.
Azu/Cel from Rusty Quill Gaming. There was a startling amount of UST, or at least URT (Unresolved Romantic Tension) between them on the airship, and their personalities also mesh really well in unexpected ways. They're both canonically involved with other people now, but I still kind of ship them.
20. Ship that you liked but don’t anymore
I seem to recall that I shipped Hamid/Bertie (RQG) for about ten seconds before it became clear what kind of person Bertie was. But that's too easy; I was never all that into it.
This is not so much a ship as a whole fandom: Top Gear. I loved the silly fun parts of the show for a while, and I've always been intensely interested in the male homosocial continuum, and also the complexities of how stage personas intersect with people's ostensibly real, true, private selves. So I wrote a few fics, although I'm pleased to be able to say that I only shipped James May/Richard Hammond (or May with a couple of other men); Jeremy Clarkson was always kind of a dickhead in my stories.
Then the show did a racism I couldn't ignore or explain away to myself, and they were all involved in it. I wrote an angry fic, and the fandom got angry at me in return, and I left without any real regret.
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Date: 2021-09-01 08:41 am (UTC)